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majoho · Jun 22, 2010, 08:49 AM // 08:49

Told ya

Look at the wiki page, there are tons of hints.

I recently did it and I the only thing I had a problem with was those damn Titans (the pain ones I think).

Lich is easy, Shiro can be lured and easily disposed off if you use a stance remover and give your mesmer Empathy.

Dame Laureline · Jun 22, 2010, 09:07 AM // 09:07

The Lich isn't strong. You have to kill it three times at the end of prophecies, and he is easier to defeat than the mobs with three spark of titans.

About usual monsters, the key is to not aggro more than one group. Melee characters like yours should be cautious to not attack them, but to pull them with a longbow or a flatbow, then withdraw. You can easily avoid to have more than one group if you're doing well.

majoho · Jun 22, 2010, 09:19 AM // 09:19

If you want me to help you right now, send me a PM here with your name and what district you are at.

Mintha Syl · Jun 22, 2010, 09:43 AM // 09:43

If you're careful, watch the patrols and not overaggro you can dispose of the groups in your path without too much trouble. Just be very very careful at it, especially with the small elonian titans that deal a lot of damage, try to take the big titans one at a time (in the portals part you can really do it if you wait patiently for them to disperse before pulling). Lightbringer gaze here is very useful. And kill the wraiths before the last foe in the group is dead, otherwise you will have the group spawning again.
For the Shiro and Lich part, do the bonus even if you don't need it (I feel as if wiki talking now) because the shrine bonuses help greatly. The lich is easy, take him far from shiro if you can can and just kill him normally, he doesn't have any special power. Shiro is another story, personally I had to do this mission twice because of Shiro (and I had him defeated already in Cantha!) but if you do things right he shouldn't be much of a trouble. Take him on the door and flag all your part back, so that he only aggroes you, or another melee with more defenses if you want, so that Shiro only aggroes that one and healing can e concentrated, as when impossible odds triggers you really need much healing. In my opinion the difficult part is drop him down the last 10% health, but if your party bring health degen it's done. Also blinding helps against him.

pinkeyflower · Jun 22, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42

If you're having trouble go to GWW or GuildWiki and look up the missions and quests and they'll normally have advice on how to beat it.

kaasbrood · Jun 22, 2010, 11:30 AM // 11:30

private message doesnt seem to work so, my IGN: Erc The Assa, English district 1
Come and help me if you want

aspi · Jun 22, 2010, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Gate of madness is pretty simple if you remember one lame thing. Park your heroes outside where shiro is and bring a SoS rit. Wait untill Shiro will use his deadliest skill when he is around 25% of his health and use Pain inverter so he can commit suicide. The lich is a joke.

Spiritz · Jun 22, 2010, 11:54 AM // 11:54

Last week i got my mes thru nf and i was panic mes with spiritway heros an hench - for once as i wasnt able to find a runner for Gates of madness i decided to try and do it.
Bare in mind the fact that only 3 of my many chrs have done nf and ive only spent time in realm of torment rushing thru it - so no returning an farming etc.I managed to do all the missions on masters and was shocked at how easy it seemed - i swear on my other chrs i had serious problems so ended up disliking the place.
When i got to lich an shiro and thru my own stupidity i capped 2 shrines then ended up killing shiro first an getting rest of shrines then lich.And again it seemed easier and faster than being run .
Im not saying im a great player - i may have had luck and also the way i took my time watching for patrols and careful pulling.
In realm of torment team setup is crucial - you need to get your heros builds setup , heros runed up etc as unlike henches who are pre set - heros will be your lifeline as long as you treat them with respect as a badly skilled hero is worse than a badly runed hero.
Also as suggested any mission / quest always check wiki on for hints and details - thats a big bonus.
Btw with a gd hero setup and henches abbadon should be a push over as he isnt really as hard as you`d think.Can be done with almost any team setup and hench - we did it with 2 heal heros and 6 ppl with no synergy for team skills and basically builds were just chucked together ( even a ranger who thought we meant abbadons mouth in prophs an brought winter lol ).

majoho · Jun 22, 2010, 12:32 PM // 12:32

Ok we just did it no probs at all, I even managed to pull both the lich and shiro at the same time but they went down fast - although kassbrood did die because he got a little too far ahead of where I parked my heroes.

Jun 22, 2010, 08:49 AM // 08:49	#21
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Told ya Look at the wiki page, there are tons of hints. I recently did it and I the only thing I had a problem with was those damn Titans (the pain ones I think). Lich is easy, Shiro can be lured and easily disposed off if you use a stance remover and give your mesmer Empathy.

Jun 22, 2010, 09:07 AM // 09:07	#22
Dame Laureline Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010 Guild: Childs of Amber Profession: P/	The Lich isn't strong. You have to kill it three times at the end of prophecies, and he is easier to defeat than the mobs with three spark of titans. About usual monsters, the key is to not aggro more than one group. Melee characters like yours should be cautious to not attack them, but to pull them with a longbow or a flatbow, then withdraw. You can easily avoid to have more than one group if you're doing well.

Jun 22, 2010, 09:19 AM // 09:19	#23
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	If you want me to help you right now, send me a PM here with your name and what district you are at.

Jun 22, 2010, 09:43 AM // 09:43	#24
Mintha Syl Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2010	If you're careful, watch the patrols and not overaggro you can dispose of the groups in your path without too much trouble. Just be very very careful at it, especially with the small elonian titans that deal a lot of damage, try to take the big titans one at a time (in the portals part you can really do it if you wait patiently for them to disperse before pulling). Lightbringer gaze here is very useful. And kill the wraiths before the last foe in the group is dead, otherwise you will have the group spawning again. For the Shiro and Lich part, do the bonus even if you don't need it (I feel as if wiki talking now) because the shrine bonuses help greatly. The lich is easy, take him far from shiro if you can can and just kill him normally, he doesn't have any special power. Shiro is another story, personally I had to do this mission twice because of Shiro (and I had him defeated already in Cantha!) but if you do things right he shouldn't be much of a trouble. Take him on the door and flag all your part back, so that he only aggroes you, or another melee with more defenses if you want, so that Shiro only aggroes that one and healing can e concentrated, as when impossible odds triggers you really need much healing. In my opinion the difficult part is drop him down the last 10% health, but if your party bring health degen it's done. Also blinding helps against him.

Jun 22, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42	#25
pinkeyflower Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010	If you're having trouble go to GWW or GuildWiki and look up the missions and quests and they'll normally have advice on how to beat it.

Jun 22, 2010, 11:30 AM // 11:30	#26
kaasbrood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2010	private message doesnt seem to work so, my IGN: Erc The Assa, English district 1 Come and help me if you want

Jun 22, 2010, 11:53 AM // 11:53	#27
aspi Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: eeew Profession: N/Rt	Gate of madness is pretty simple if you remember one lame thing. Park your heroes outside where shiro is and bring a SoS rit. Wait untill Shiro will use his deadliest skill when he is around 25% of his health and use Pain inverter so he can commit suicide. The lich is a joke.

Jun 22, 2010, 11:54 AM // 11:54	#28
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	Last week i got my mes thru nf and i was panic mes with spiritway heros an hench - for once as i wasnt able to find a runner for Gates of madness i decided to try and do it. Bare in mind the fact that only 3 of my many chrs have done nf and ive only spent time in realm of torment rushing thru it - so no returning an farming etc.I managed to do all the missions on masters and was shocked at how easy it seemed - i swear on my other chrs i had serious problems so ended up disliking the place. When i got to lich an shiro and thru my own stupidity i capped 2 shrines then ended up killing shiro first an getting rest of shrines then lich.And again it seemed easier and faster than being run . Im not saying im a great player - i may have had luck and also the way i took my time watching for patrols and careful pulling. In realm of torment team setup is crucial - you need to get your heros builds setup , heros runed up etc as unlike henches who are pre set - heros will be your lifeline as long as you treat them with respect as a badly skilled hero is worse than a badly runed hero. Also as suggested any mission / quest always check wiki on for hints and details - thats a big bonus. Btw with a gd hero setup and henches abbadon should be a push over as he isnt really as hard as you`d think.Can be done with almost any team setup and hench - we did it with 2 heal heros and 6 ppl with no synergy for team skills and basically builds were just chucked together ( even a ranger who thought we meant abbadons mouth in prophs an brought winter lol ).

Jun 22, 2010, 12:32 PM // 12:32	#29
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Ok we just did it no probs at all, I even managed to pull both the lich and shiro at the same time but they went down fast - although kassbrood did die because he got a little too far ahead of where I parked my heroes.